Curse

XoVeR · Feb 13, 2008, 07:03 AM // 07:03

Right now, I am a level 20 Paragon Warrior (switched from monk as a secondary) and I am only through the first 7 missions about to do the eigth but I know the missions will get tougher and I want to make sure my build is good, for the available skills I have got.

I am 12+2 into spear Mastery
10 in leader ship
8 in command

I am equiped with AL 80 armor and Eshau's Spear (Unique Spear)

Here is my build and again sorry for no pictures to scroll over

Lightning Spear
Cruel Spear (Elite Skill)
Mighty Throw
Aggressive Refrain
For Great Justice
Go For the Eyes
There's Nothing to Fear

Tell me what you think so far. I like what it has done for me so far but I do not know if I am maximizing my skills

MisterB · Feb 13, 2008, 09:21 AM // 09:21

Mighty Throw is pretty bad; replace it with another adrenaline spear skill. Blazing Spear or Wild Throw, most probably. Try and balance your attributes to get 12 Leadership. This will enable you to maintain Aggressive Refrain with TNtF.

edit: To answer your question, yes, that is a good starting build.

Div · Feb 13, 2008, 09:35 AM // 09:35

Take out mighty throw and either put in anthem of flame to keep aggressive up or something like vicious/wild throw and spec 12 to leadership. That'll leave you with just 6+1 command, so you'll need to get a req7 shield for best results.

Redvex · Feb 13, 2008, 12:54 PM // 12:54

I use leadership to 14 12 +2
Spear 10+1+1
Command 8+1

But i run Sy+Tntf son 7 energy and 2 seconds more on tntf

XoVeR · Feb 13, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09

So Repec more points into leadership so I can keep Aggressive Refrain and Tntf on longer. I have not got Blazing Spear yet, but I do have wild throw so I will take off Mighty throw and throw on Anthem of Flame.

Does that sound right??

MisterB · Feb 13, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25

Anthem of Flame is enough to maintain Agressive Refrain by itself. The reason to put 12 Leadership in your original build is that AR will last 21 seconds at 12. TNtF recharges in 20, so you can maintain Agressive Refrain with that skill at 12 Leadership. You don't really need both 12 Leadership and Anthem of Flame. One or the other will work, but you do want to maintain AR.

XoVeR · Feb 13, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by MisterB

Anthem of Flame is enough to maintain Agressive Refrain by itself. The reason to put 12 Leadership in your original build is that AR will last 21 seconds at 12. TNtF recharges in 20, so you can maintain Agressive Refrain with that skill at 12 Leadership. You don't really need both 12 Leadership and Anthem of Flame. One or the other will work, but you do want to maintain AR.

I just respect my att points so now I have 10+2 leadership, 8 command, and 12 Leadership. I also now have Lightning spear, Cruel Spear, Wild Throw, and Blazing Spear as my attack skills in my skill bar and AR, Go For the Eyes, For Great Justice and Theres nothing to fear, and I can see the affect of that

As long as I Cast AR as the first thing I do, avoid using energy skills but Adrenaline based chants then skills, I can keep AR going for the whole time, spam For Great Justice,TNTF, Go For the eyes, I have enough adrenaline and and protection to spear away.

I am now fully understanding how to play this paragon, I am wiping out mobs quick as all hell.

I just rescued Kormir and got masters on that mission in a grand total of 15 mionutes, and did the second part of that mission with 10 minutes to spare, with just henchies and my heroes.

Good suggestions you guys

Avatar Exico · Feb 15, 2008, 06:29 AM // 06:29

wow two leadership att. you mean 12 leadership, 8 command, 10 Spear Mastery? that would sound better.

Yichi · Feb 15, 2008, 07:35 AM // 07:35

at least you're using an idea of doing damage instead of being useless like 90% of most pve paragons...

XoVeR · Feb 15, 2008, 08:45 AM // 08:45

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Originally Posted by Yichi

at least you're using an idea of doing damage instead of being useless like 90% of most pve paragons...

Haha I noticed that too lately while on missions, people see my build then I see theres and they are are all about adding defense and healing, then chastise me when I want to be able to cause damage, yet still able to add some defense to my party and healing, while being able to boosts people attack. Then after I run the mission with them they apologize about criticizing my build because they realise that yes I want to attack and cause dmg, but I know I am not going to be a primary damage dealer. I am a support damage dealer, while at the same time keeping up Gftes, and TntF so my group can get a boost.

When I can get Focused Anger (which I found out I can haha I actually took my head out my ass and looked up where to find it) I should be able to manage my adrenaline better.

Also is their any good ideas on how to increase my energy so if and when I do die, I don't sacrifice all my energy when I use Aggressive Refrain the the first time? Right now my spear is Eshau's Spear which has a -5 to energy while boosting my hp's +30 and my damage output. So instead of having 33 energy I have 28.

Shaz · Feb 15, 2008, 09:51 AM // 09:51

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Originally Posted by XoVeR

Also is their any good ideas on how to increase my energy so if and when I do die, I don't sacrifice all my energy when I use Aggressive Refrain the the first time? Right now my spear is Eshau's Spear which has a -5 to energy while boosting my hp's +30 and my damage output. So instead of having 33 energy I have 28.

Just use a staff on one of your weapon set, and switch to that when you're rez to temporary increase your energy pool for AR and other stuffs. Then switch back to your spear set, and a few GftE should get your energy right back up. Don't use Attunement or Radiant, or a focus instead of a shield.

XoVeR · Feb 15, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by Shaz

Just use a staff on one of your weapon set, and switch to that when you're rez to temporary increase your energy pool for AR and other stuffs. Then switch back to your spear set, and a few GftE should get your energy right back up. Don't use Attunement or Radiant, or a focus instead of a shield.

That makes complete sense. Thinking outside the box I see haha

Bobby2 · Feb 15, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

I do believe there's no excuse for not including SY!

MisterB · Feb 15, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

I do believe there's no excuse for not including SY!

OP said this is a new character; you also need at least 53,000 faction as well as running halfway through Factions to get to the Luxon/Kurzick areas.

XoVeR, I would recommend replacing the Radiant insignia on your armor with Centurion or Survivor. I prefer Centurion for the +10 armor, and the condition is almost always met. Leadership should handle all your energy management, and you can use a staff on a spare weaponset to cast AR if you acrue DP.

Abedeus · Feb 15, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by Yichi

at least you're using an idea of doing damage instead of being useless like 90% of most pve paragons...

You mean that changing 7 other characters into tanks with at least 160 armor is useless?

Stormlord Alex · Feb 15, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

You mean that changing 7 other characters into tanks with at least 160 armor is useless?

No, he means packing your bar with crap from Motivation and Command and running 0 Spear Mastery. The spear is just about the most overpowered weapon in the game capable of incredible DPS with little input, not using it on a Para is retarded. And it just so happens PuGs are retards.

XoVeR · Feb 18, 2008, 07:46 AM // 07:46

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Originally Posted by MisterB

OP said this is a new character; you also need at least 53,000 faction as well as running halfway through Factions to get to the Luxon/Kurzick areas.

XoVeR, I would recommend replacing the Radiant insignia on your armor with Centurion or Survivor. I prefer Centurion for the +10 armor, and the condition is almost always met. Leadership should handle all your energy management, and you can use a staff on a spare weaponset to cast AR if you acrue DP.

Yeah this is a fairly new character, and I do not own factions so I cannot even get SY yet, but will once I finish the last two missions I have in Nightfall, I am looking to get factions and GWEN the same time.

So far nobody has been upset with my build when I am in parties, and I have been running this build for about 2 weeks now and it is money. The only thing I cannot account for is dumbies on Missions who thinks it is smart to not pull the Harbinger of Nightfall and not clearing out the patrols, then running when we get mobbed, and being he is the only one alive he has a Rez right? Nope, we get wiped.

Improvavel · Feb 25, 2008, 04:24 AM // 04:24

For PvE, you can go with 2 major runes, 1 spear and 1 leadership, get a +1 spear crest, and get 11+2+1 spear 10+2 leadership 10 command, and still get 540 health, if u go with a sup vigor rune, 2 vitae and +30 on spear and +30 on shield. More if you go with survivor insignias over centurion, but for pve both work the same. You can go 15 spear mastery by dropping command to 8 and using a minor command rune in place of one vitae rune, but I don't see the point and you will lose some of the shield armor if u get weakened.

And you don't need SY for normal mode bar some elite areas.

Axel Zinfandel · Feb 25, 2008, 06:20 AM // 06:20

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

No, he means packing your bar with crap from Motivation and Command and running 0 Spear Mastery. The spear is just about the most overpowered weapon in the game capable of incredible DPS with little input, not using it on a Para is retarded. And it just so happens PuGs are retards.

QFT. Seriously, I even run a spear build on my Warrior from time to time.

gizzt · Mar 03, 2008, 07:48 AM // 07:48

One thing you can do if you dont want to put an extra 2 points into leadership is buy any leadership helm (armor doesnt matter) and put a +3 leadership rune helm on. Then when you zone into a new area, put the helm on, cast AR then put your real helm back on. And you get the better AR without putting the points in...